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le freak
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Post subject: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:28 pm |
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For a brief period of time, between when there was "still hope" and now, Bryan didn`t rule out any new Roxy album. He used to answer that the Roxy members were great instrumentalists, and that he would like to do a soundtrack album of some sorts. This always filled me with confusion. What did he mean? Was it only to make the whole anticipation among the fans fizzle out nice and slow? 
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DCJ
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:15 pm |
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Lord only knows what meaning should be attributed to BF's statements re Roxy in recent years. I think he enjoys being obtuse and "stirring the pot" every once in a while just to see the reaction it engenders.
At this point he seems professionally occupied through next summer if not through the end of 2014. At some point he'll get back to doing something with all the delayed Roxy album "deluxe reissues." But right now he's still basking in the glow of The Jazz Age and twiddling with the Johnny Marr collaboration that might see the light of day next year if we're lucky.
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Gary
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:44 am |
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DCJ wrote: Lord only knows what meaning should be attributed to BF's statements re Roxy in recent years. I think he enjoys being obtuse and "stirring the pot" every once in a while just to see the reaction it engenders.
At this point he seems professionally occupied through next summer if not through the end of 2014. At some point he'll get back to doing something with all the delayed Roxy album "deluxe reissues." But right now he's still basking in the glow of The Jazz Age and twiddling with the Johnny Marr collaboration that might see the light of day next year if we're lucky. For me it was a significant event when Paul joined Lindesfarne. It means BF has probably stopped his retainer and thus there is nothing RM wise on the radar in a playing live sense, it's finished. Yes, there maybe some recordings released but that's about it. Bryan has also said when asked about RM "this is my Roxy Music now" nodding at his current touring band. So whatever went on in 2011 has given BF the hump and unless he changes his mind they won't get together again unfortunately. It reminds me of what AM said in the documentary "More than this" regarding Sid Vicious _ "I like Roxy Music they're alright but that Bryan Ferry is a ****" I think Andy told that story for a reason? No offense people.....
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avalon_eyes
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:25 am |
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I wouldnt read too much into that Vicious remark. At that point Ferry was being lampooned by NME as a country boy gone all posh. Vicious was the epitome of punk. I thought Mackay was just being funny, reflecting on the times.
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Ian S
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:53 am |
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I agree with Gary on this one. I think it was a sly dig at Bryan by Andy, using Sid's words as a disguise. He didn't need to mention it at all. If anything,you normally say arse-kissy stuff about your band mates. Sid Vicious was an idiot with a big mouth I don't think anyone in the music business liked him,including Johnny Rotten. If anything HE was a c...t ! I don't think Mackay would have liked SV either,so it seems strange that he was quoting the words of an idiot as if it had some clout ! I personally thought Bryan never intended to release anything under the Roxy name. He just tried to hype up publicity for Olympia. The cover for Olympia featured a glamour model,the first time ever for a Bryan solo album. And it also featured contributions from Mackay Eno, Manzanera,Hubbard and Newmark. All very familiar to Roxy Music.
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UKRichard
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:08 pm |
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The comments here again put me in mind of the 2011 Roxy tour. I have to say I was pretty surprised and not a little dismayed to witness the fairly rudimentary way the band rattled through the songs with little or no interaction with the audience and no chemistry between the core members whatsoever. Such a stark contrast to what had gone before. Whilst I appreciated the setlist enormously, I did leave thinking that was probably the last time I'd get to see them live and, if it was, it was probably no bad thing.
Like many here, I think Roxy are done now. For me it's a case of thanks for the best of times, r.i.p. and let's see what the individual band members still have to give us in the autumn of their years.
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Richard
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:45 am |
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UKRichard wrote: The comments here again put me in mind of the 2011 Roxy tour. I have to say I was pretty surprised and not a little dismayed to witness the fairly rudimentary way the band rattled through the songs with little or no interaction with the audience and no chemistry between the core members whatsoever. Such a stark contrast to what had gone before. Whilst I appreciated the setlist enormously, I did leave thinking that was probably the last time I'd get to see them live and, if it was, it was probably no bad thing.
Like many here, I think Roxy are done now. For me it's a case of thanks for the best of times, r.i.p. and let's see what the individual band members still have to give us in the autumn of their years. Sadly I agree with both this and Sid.
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Sadie's Boyfriend
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:53 am |
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For what it's worth, I got the impression over the years that Andy felt maybe that he was the one that was least appreciated from within the band, by Ferry. These comments are well documented, but the latest comment from Andy, made public anyway, and the one that startled, and delighted me, was when Ferry was doing the Q&A thing fairly recently on line, questions were thrown open, and Andy Mackay, no less. asked, along the lines, "is there any chance we can finish that last album we started?"
I would take this "fued", if you like, back to '76 when IYM was the 6th Roxy Music album, bar Andy. Agree with Paul sadly, being allowed to move on, as being significant, but is paul part of the Roxy Music "PLC"?
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Smudge
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:05 am |
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Agree with Paul sadly, being allowed to move on, as being significant, but is paul part of the Roxy Music "PLC"?
I'm not sure that such a company exists in BF's world. I think there is an acceptance that anything done under the Roxy banner needs the involvement of Andy & Phil to keep the fans onside and there's been a dawning realisation over the years that most of us view TGPT as being intrinsic to the Roxy sound.
Sadly, for a variety of reasons (probably including personality clashes & the desire for artistic "freshness" or stimulation), I think BF has decided to play those songs with other musicians from here on.
I still think anything which might be done together in the future would benefit from Eno's production, both to satisfy Andy & Phil's avant garde/progressive leanings and to reign in BF's perfectionism which sometimes leads to over-production and lengthy release postponements. Eno has successfully persuaded strong personalities within U2, for example, to stop tinkering with songs because the rough edges are what defines the diamonds...
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paraphonix
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Post subject: Re: Why the "soundtrack/instrumental" intermezzo? Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:56 am |
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Sadie's Boyfriend wrote: I would take this "fued", if you like, back to '76 when IYM was the 6th Roxy Music album, bar Andy. Agree with Paul sadly, being allowed to move on, as being significant, but is paul part of the Roxy Music "PLC"? ...i think paul IS part of roxy music plc...obv he returned for the reunion, but he also managed to oust the andy newmark/tara ferry combo for the all-important US leg of the 'Olympia' tour, and fulfilled all dates in 2012. he clearly has something that BF keeps returning too...
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