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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:21 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:34 pm 
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A quote from Colin Hay, singer, guitarist and song writer with Men at Work (his Men at Work Mondays on Youtube are excellent by the way):
“I’m approaching 70 now,” he explains, “and it’s clear to me that I’m in the home stretch. I don’t feel any fear or a resignation about it, though, just an urgency to say the things I need to say and do the things I need to do.”
So onto Roxy Music. Phil and Bryan have been productive outside of Roxy since March 2020 and it's a shame that nothing has materialised from them together. Remember that Phil and Tim Finn were able to make an album from the opposite sides of the globe. Modern technology makes that possible. I'm not sure what Andy has been doing. The point is that band member don't have to be together in a studio to make an album together. So why nothing new? Both Roxy and their fans are getting on a bit now, and of course the world is a very unpredictable place at the moment. It's a crying shame that it looks as if no material will emerge.
Anyway my wish list bearing the above in mind:
1 A DVD of the 1975 Siren gig at Wembley. We all know that it was filmed as BF said so all during the gig.
2 A DVD of one/some of the 2011 gigs.
3 Perhaps an official release of the 1974 boot leg.
It looks as if a new album has come and gone, never to return.................


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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:24 pm 
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Just with Roger mentioning it there - whatever did happen to the planned DVD/CD release of the 2011 gigs? It was definitely in the works as it was mentioned on the Roxy site amongst others.
Also I think Bryan released some footage that was used as the screen backdrops to a couple of songs.
I mean surely it could not have been that hard to release a DVD/CD set.

As much as I love Bryan I sometimes think his search for perfection can be his undoing. Nothing is ever going to be perfect and as fans we don’t need a bells and whistles set if the actual product (ie DVD, live CD etc) is good.

It’s just sad to see when I get so much from my other favourite artists (Rolling Stones releasing concerts from the vault series, Bruce Springsteen having a live archive where concerts are constantly added and can be bought digitally or physically.)
There’s so much that could be released for the fans.


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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:29 am 
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VivaRoxyMusic.com wrote:
Did Andy Mackay not post a statement why he withdrew from the Roxy Music album?

I don't think it was solely Bryan that wasn't happy with the project.

J.O'B.


My recollection was AM saying that he couldn’t find any enthusiasm for working on BF tracks that predated the Roxy sessions - after all, adding parts to pre-existing songs is rather than province of a session musician, which is how BF has been accustomed to working now since at least 1985.

I also recall PM saying that they’d signed a three album deal! That they’d recorded 18 tracks, at least 12 of which was amazing.

PM was very diplomatic some years later when he stated that they weren’t “good enough” to inspire BF to write lyrics for them.

AM was similarly diplomatic sometime after the event, when he said that “inspiration, by definition, can’t arrive on demand.”


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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:54 pm 
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Mes Amis,
Maybe the pending reunion could stimulate the creative juices but W2 thinks the chances are slim.
The FYP tour finished in visible rancour.
The gig in Sydney was the most bizarre fandango. The set list was the best ever. The delivery was note perfect and the staging was superb.
That said, our hero was visibly completely disconnected and any bon ami had exited stage left well before the show.
Perhaps the intervening years have healed whatever wounds existed - but nous allon voir ce que nous allon voir mais W2 lui-meme prefers to remember the halcyon days when they were on fire.
Salutations,
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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:03 am 
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Totally agree. The last time I saw them live at Rock Roll Hall of Fame the vibe was icy.... at best. AM and PM were chummy but BF was not at all comfortable.
On a more positive note we finally have a bit of promotion going on State-Side. For those who subscribe to Sirrus Xm and listen to the station First Wave...RM is the featured artist all week. Each song is introduced by a few pre-recorded lines by BF, AM,or PM. Nothing insightful but still good to hear. The first 2 days mostly the obvious tracks, but a few gems mixed in.
What really needs to be done at this stage is promos on local radio stations in the markets where the gigs are scheduled, but tix are still plentiful. A National station that is only availalble to those who subscribe is better than nothing but need to be more targeted. There are stations in NYC and Chicago(LPR/WXRT) that are geared to this audience and have long supported RM. Time to engage again.


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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:31 pm 
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I'm not going down (yet again) the rabbit hole that holds the mysteries of the 2005/06 Roxy recordings... But count me among those who believe that a lot of work went into these recordings and that they were very substantial in their quantity and completeness. BF's huffing to the contrary does not carry much weight IMHO given insights and comments offered by PM and AM over the years...

But whatever, they'll see the light of day only when (if) BF wants it to happen...

The economics/structure of the upcoming Roxy tour is a mystery, as the band's ability to fill major arenas in the States has never been a strong point. And no gigs in mainland Europe? Hmm. Can the effect of Brexit be that bad for touring British bands?

And why only three gigs in Britain? Seems they could fill a few more sizable venues on their home turf. But whatever...

It seems to me that the best way for them to promote the tour is to get together for a group interview including BF, PM, AM, and TGPT (if he wants to), where they can at least make it sound that they are excited about getting back together and playing again. This strikes me as "Tour Promotion 101" and hardly revolutionary. If they could all get together and sign the tour contracts, they should also be able to get together and talk about why they are excited about the tour. Or is it simply a money grab taking advantage of a promoter who's willing to give them a sizable guarantee no matter how many tix get sold...

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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 10:15 am 
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" But whatever, they'll see the light of day only when (if) BF wants it to happen..."

As Bryan himself said at the time, he repeatedly considered whether the recordings should at least partially be used for a Roxy or Ferry album.


August 2010:

At one stage, Ferry’s new Olympia album was slated to become the first new Roxy Music record since Avalon. In 2005, fan sites were abuzz with rumours; when Ferry went into the studio with long-departed member Brian Eno, the buzz became a swarm of speculation. But although Olympia does feature nearly every original member of Roxy Music, it’s firmly a Bryan Ferry album.
Bryan:
At a certain point I thought, maybe I’ll turn this into a Roxy album, and then I thought twice about it and didn’t do that. Although Andy and Phil and even Brian Eno guested on it. It’s always good to work with Eno …,


With that, the decision, which is irrevocable, was made.


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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:47 am 
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VivaRoxyMusic.com wrote:
Did Andy Mackay not post a statement why he withdrew from the Roxy Music album?

I don't think it was solely Bryan that wasn't happy with the project.

J.O'B.



John, that's not entirely correct. In 2019 Andy stated in an interview that he would like to finish the Roxy album. Also because they owe it to the Roxy fans.

He said, we`ve done a lot of great work together.

Here is the interview, February 11, 2019

What happened to the new album that Roxy started in 2007?

We went in the same way as the Stranded days – get a rhythm track, then have Bryan work on lyrics and vocals while we worked on other songs. Bryan had had some songs half-finished already, which he later turned into his album Olympia. To me, we hadn’t wanted to work on those anyway. All five original Roxy members, plus Guy Pratt on bass and Chris Thomas producing us again, we should really have been able to start again on all-new songs. Which we did, we had seven or eight really good backing tracks.

Are there any other projects you’ve worked on in the meantime?

I’ve two new tracks for Andy Mackay + The Metaphors: I’d love to re-release the album we did in 2009 with some extra tracks and maybe do some gigs. The players in The Metaphors were exceptional. But the one project we really should finish is that Roxy album. It’s down to Bryan to decide. I can’t ever read his mind. We’ve done a lot of great work together, but he’s quite stubborn in the directions he wants to go in. I feel we owe people that album. Rock ‘n’ roll has given me a great life and the people who supported Roxy would like more, so I think we should try to do it.


As always: Bryan holds the key in his hand. But he won't unlock the door. So the tour makes little sense to me, even though I have tickets for O2 London. Because it will be Roxy's last appearance.


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 Post subject: Re: The voices of anticipation are silent now.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:28 pm 
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I found the below here which was posted by Ian S on 7th August 2019:

I have read that I played on Bryan's upcoming record OLYMPIA. Just for the record I may have done but I am not sure! The situation arose when we were trying to make a new Roxy record in early 2007. We booked a big studio room at RAK in London and set up to record 'live' much as we had done in AIR London in 1973. We had all the band including Eno and our legendary producer Chris Thomas. We laid down some great sounding and rocking backing tracks but it was clear that it would be a long slog to get them into the sort of perfection that Roxy albums demand, not least because none of them had lyrics.
Bryan also had some beautiful sounding tracks in various states of completion that he had been working on over time for possible inclusion on the album. They had the finesse and production values that people have come to associate and enjoy with Bryan's solo work since the mid 80s. We all worked on them, along with the new stuff at Phil's Gallery Studios for several weeks. However I could not feel the commitment and passion that would get me through what would undoubtedly be be a long and difficult road to a finished album on tracks that I had not been involved with from the start. I hope that bits of my playing and ideas are still embedded in some tracks on Bryan's new album. I wish it all success and look forward to hearing it.
The Roxy project ground to a halt, Bryan decided to carry on with solo work, Phil went into the studio and worked, as he always does, on several projects at once, and I went into Real World studios with my Metaphor colleagues to push my playing in other directions .
The rest, as they say, is history, or, more realistically, a footnote.
Andy





    

  


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