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 Post subject: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:10 pm 
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Oh dear, for me putting a druggie on the cover of your album is the kiss of death. I'll just wait 'til its remaindered now.


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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:55 pm 
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Skank.


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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:25 pm 
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it's quite refreshing all this controversy .... The last two posts are both amusing judgmental knee jerk nonsense and horrible mysogynistic crap .. Ferry's been no stranger to a line or two in the past and a substantial amount of successfull exciting music has always / sometimes had Druggie" connections .. as a result this surprise and nastiness seems tedious and redundant .... why don't you both crawl back under your 'skanky' daily mail reader morality ..... it's obviously where you BOTH feel most comfortable !........
Ps ... Does 'Peanut' refer to the size of your brain ??


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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:03 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:23 am 
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Without the Sex, Drugs and... forget the rest. Only a naive critter would think else.

It's quite interesting that the sheeple's dislikes of a certain artist, sticks to partly jealousy and partly lack of self-knowledge it seems.

I wholeheartly agree with BF: -Kate is the modern Femme Fatale, she's the most important visual icon since Marilyn Monroe..

Not my type, but that notion of mine is a private observation,

Bryan's altruistic notion towards KM seems right to me. Something I could have remarked myself.


To define the world, doesn't mean to accept and embrace, can't people see the difference? I'm surprised and baffeld of general naivism here.

If Kate Moss covers it, it gives the album a kind o Iconophile expression, maybe the thing he was looking for. And of course, I think they know each other well, no surprise for that matter, since both are very creative artists imo.

Think Olympia vs Kate Moss. Two of the kind, different epoques.
Remember that the painting (Manet) was that age's Photography.

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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:51 pm 
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Oh dear, the panty-wearing liberal left have come out in force to criticise people who actually don't approve of drug taking. Take another puff of your weed dear and you'll feel mellow again. Just leave the thinking to the rest of us.


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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:24 pm 
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"Panty wearing" ?!? Is that some expression picked up during a blether down at the Village fête ?... Not clear where the insult's heading.... .. Let's clear up a few points here .. Whether you agree with drug taking or not ... As the wise St Learraine pointed out ... Sex + Drugs usually means better Rock and Roll .. To think otherwise is strange and a bit dim. This isn't a Cliff Richard Forum !! Calling a woman a "Skank" is just hatefull , sinister and shows a lack of intelligent critical vocabulary. If you don't approve of drug taking then perhaps a Rock Music forum may prove too controversial for you .... There's always Val Doonican ...?


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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:17 pm 
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Frankly I don't advocate drug-taking, just wanted to clear that out.

But the opposite, denying that drugs has not been an essential part of artistry since way before Charles Baudelaire and Oscar Wilde, would be quite hipocritical. Anyone, friends of mine, people in the limelight, artists, whoever, also know the two-edged sword of that game. To survive in the R&R game a strong character seems a necessity. So many great artists (and friends) passed that way, and I'm astonished that many of them are still with us.

No left-liberal Dame M, only a free-wheeling whig :lol:

I could however, have quoted the newly deceased dandy and living-art-sculpture, Sebastian Horsley, but I rest my sarcasm, don't wanna offend anyone. Actually I find it quite interesting in here.

cheers, ~St.Learraine~

:D S.M.I.L.E. :D I'll get YOUR pictures instead! 8-)


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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:18 am 
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On 15 September 2005, the Daily Mirror ran front page and inside photos that seemed to show Moss snorting several lines of a white powder that was presumed to be cocaine at a Babyshambles recording session. It was also reported that Moss snorted five lines in 40 minutes.It has been alleged by Babyshambles' singer Pete Doherty that James Mullord, his former manager, sold the photos to the newspaper for more than £150,000.Within a short time of publication, Moss lost major modelling contracts with several international companies.

On 20 September 2005, the Swedish fashion retailer H&M, which had intended to feature her in a campaign of their autumn clothes range designed by Moss's good friend Stella McCartney, announced instead that it was dropping Moss after the drug allegations. The contract was reportedly worth £4 million a year. A day later, Chanel announced that it would not be renewing its contract with Moss, which was set to expire that October, although the company said that its decision had nothing to do with the drug scandal. Burberry also decided to drop Moss's campaign with them. Moss quickly issued an apology, though she stopped short of admitting drug use. "I take full responsibility for my actions. I also accept that there are various personal issues that I need to address and have started taking the difficult, yet necessary, steps to resolve them," she said. "I want to apologise to all of the people I have let down because of my behaviour, which has reflected badly on my family, friends, co-workers, business associates and others."

Moss continued to appear in major ad campaigns during this period for Dior. She was on the cover of the November 2005 W and also appeared inside in a multi-page fashion shoot. She was also defended by friends and supporters, including models Naomi Campbell and Helena Christensen, French actress Catherine Deneuve, her ex-boyfriend Johnny Depp, and designer Alexander McQueen. McQueen's defence was especially notable, and during his walk-out after a fashion show he wore a t-shirt saying "We love you Kate".Artist Stella Vine also publicly supported Moss, and paintings by Vine of the model, painted during the scandal, were exhibited and reproduced in the press. Vine felt the media should not have accused Moss of being a bad mother, arguing that "men can go off and take as many drugs as they want, have as many children as they want, and their parenting rarely comes into question".

British artist Stella Vine defended Moss in 2005 and painted pictures of her such as the above Holy water cannot help you now.

Pop singer Robbie Williams said of Moss's relationship with Doherty, "I can understand why Kate finds it difficult to leave Pete; he has a certain charisma surrounding him." In November 2005, Moss ended her relationship with Doherty soon after he checked himself out of Meadows Clinic in Arizona, failing to complete a programme for drug rehabilitation. Moss herself underwent successful treatment there in October and had urged Doherty to seek the same treatment himself. Doherty claims that their separation involved other issues, telling The Sun newspaper that Moss left him because, "I can’t buy her diamonds." On 5 January 2006, the Metropolitan Police asked Moss to return from the US to Britain to answer questions about the September 2005 cocaine scandal. The following day, the Daily Mirror reported that Moss would return to Britain and face arrest for allegations of cocaine usage. She was interviewed by police in London on 31 January 2006, with her solicitor present, but reportedly made no admissions, and she was not arrested (photographs of alleged drug-taking are not admissible evidence in English courts). On 16 June 2006, British police finally dropped the charges for lack of evidence.Ultimately, Moss was cleared of all charges and resumed her modelling career. Criticism of Moss has, however, continued, and her career revival has been viewed as a sign of moral and cultural decline by critics such as Peter Hitchens.

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 Post subject: Re: The Kate Moss issue
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:40 pm 
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Any publicity, good or bad, will advertise the existence of a new CD. The Bride Stripped Bare and Mamouna were full of great songs but didn't sell too well probably because there were no hit singles and not much mainstream publicity. So, as there probably won't be any big hit singles, we are relying on Moss to do it for The Great Man.


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