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 Post subject: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:04 pm 
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"Driving Me Wild" sounds like Bill Fay`s "Screams In The Ears" from 1967, with the piano et al:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIIp1hQ37AI


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:26 pm 
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After having heard the album I must say: Most of the tracks sounds like (self-)plagiarism. Nothing new under the sun. In my eyes rather disappointing. But what do you expect after more than 40 years of making music on such a high level? Bryan was sure the most innovative singer-songwriter in the seventies - these days are gone. :(


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:33 pm 
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"Goddess Of Love" has sure been the mother of many tracks on this album.


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:13 pm 
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le freak wrote:
"Goddess Of Love" has sure been the mother of many tracks on this album.


I can't hear it myself, more akin to tracks on Mamouna. Goddess of Love was a co-write with Dave Stewart.

8-)


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:42 pm 
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I agree `bout similarities with "Mamouna", but I think I can hear "Godess Of Love" in "Driving Me Wild". It`s the verse BF has put in to make it differ from Bill Fay`s song from `67. From early on it has been said that you can hear "Goddess Of Love" in "Loop The Li". I agree, but I try to forget this. It makes listening to the song more enjoyable. I hate to say this, but ain`t there some "Goddess Of Love" in the title track? -Again, try to forget, just enjoy!


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:07 pm 
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Bryan ferry's back catalogue is an influence. Indeed. bowie states proudly that he digs into his past ...and sometimes that's all he needs to do...to get inspiration. Bowie's recent excellent material sounds hugely like many things he's done before...but it's all good. Just like avonmore imnsho....it's familiar, but v v good.


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:29 pm 
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...it's clear that our friend Le freak is not a music lawyer by trade...songs with this descending 4 chord sequence are ten a penny throughout all eras of popular music...and the chosen comparison has a different time structure (3/4) to driving me wild...

I can see the sentiment, but it's just like saying bacon is plagiarised gammon...the pedant insists, but everyone else accepts subtleties & gets on with their life!

Nb a comedian recently said that obviously all the jokes have been done, it's just how you reinterpret them...


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:13 pm 
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Glad you said that paraphonix - Sorry Le Freak, but Driving Me Wild sounds nothing like the song you mentioned ! There must be a million songs out there with a descending chord structure (which has been a favourite of BF's over the years) - My Only Love, etc. Get a grip !! :x


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:26 pm 
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paraphonix wrote:

Nb a comedian recently said that obviously all the jokes have been done, it's just how you reinterpret them...


Moreover, every single note, chord, rhythm and almost every melody in the history of popular music has already been invented.

In the meantime I am a little bit fed up with all those journalists in my own country (and elsewhere in the world) who are trying to tell me that Bryan Ferry 1. is doing the same thing since 'Avalon' over and over again ('Play it again, Bryan'), 2. has always employed too many of the same musicians ('For what do you need 9 guitar players on one track ??'), that 3. his voice isn't what it used to be (don't journalists get older ??), that 4. he has polished up some very old songs (like Pink Floyd, Simple Minds, Stevie Nicks and so many others in 2014) and that 5. Pink Floyd, David Bowie, Eric Clapton, Paul McCartney et alii are far better and more creative at the same age (I really read that today !!).

So I decided to be even more thankful for this new album called 'Avonmore'. An album of an artist who has recorded and performed a widespread range of styles from art rock to dance floor funk, from folk songs to swing jazz. An artist that is, unlike John Lennon, George Harrison, Robert Palmer, Rick Wright, Gerry Rafferty, JJ Cale and so many others, still alive! Who could have been dead in a plane crash many years ago - thanks to God that didn't happen. An artist who supplies his fans with songs and concerts they (mostly) like because they always liked the man, his band, his personality.

BTW: Elton John, Eric Clapton and even David Bowie do what they always did. They entertain their fans with good music without any revolutionary aspects. If we want to hear revolutions we still have got 'RM' and 'For Your Pleasure'. But if Roxy Music 2005/6 would have worked, they wouldn't have been revolutionary any more ...

That's pianoman's humble opinion. And now, let's have fun with 'Avonmore' :-) !!


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 Post subject: Re: It`s plagiarism
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:26 pm 
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RobertJ wrote:
Glad you said that paraphonix - Sorry Le Freak, but Driving Me Wild sounds nothing like the song you mentioned ! There must be a million songs out there with a descending chord structure (which has been a favourite of BF's over the years) - My Only Love, etc. Get a grip !! :x


Get a grip? I thought my case was obvious, and I still do!


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