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| Author: | le freak [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | the verdict |
[list=]Loop De Li.........:a nice one Midnight Train...........:a nice one Soldier Of Fortune.......:filler Driving Me Wild..........:filler A Special Kind of Guy....:filler (never has he been nearer an aural soup, plus it`s mono-aural, es ist eintönig) Avonmore.................:a nice one Lost........................:a nice one One Night Stand..........:filler Send In The Clowns......:a nice one Johnny And Mary.........:a nice one[/list] |
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| Author: | pianoman [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
I respect your opinion, le freak. But I think some tracks on 'Mamouna' or the 'Olympia' version of 'You Can Dance' are more 'eintönig' (monotonous) than 'A Special Kind Of Guy'. All styles served here ... BTW, your verdict on 'Avonmore' could be worse ('a nice one')  .
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| Author: | paraphonix [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
le freak wrote: [list=]Loop De Li.........:a nice one Midnight Train...........:a nice one Soldier Of Fortune.......:filler Driving Me Wild..........:filler A Special Kind of Guy....:filler (never has he been nearer an aural soup, plus it`s mono-aural, es ist eintönig) Avonmore.................:a nice one Lost........................:a nice one One Night Stand..........:filler Send In The Clowns......:a nice one Johnny And Mary.........:a nice one[/list] le freak...never knowingly positive...but fair enough, all opinions valid & welcome here... loop - v good - a real grower midnight - serves the purpose, lyrics ok, musically strong soldier - filler?!?! this is honest bf, quite raw & quite frankly a breath of fresh air... driving - i like this. insistent, great lyrics, and quite brave. this doesn't hide behind production. special guy - not my personal fave. one for the ladies?! avonmore - the best. tough, in your face, great music & structure, & great lyrics... lost - nice to hear this finished. a cool track that doesn't outstay its welcome... one night stand - a bf tune. i like the groove,not a total classic, but certainly not a duffer... clowns - like this a lot, but not sure of it on this record...and the same goes for... ...J&M - again, love it, but does it fit?! anyhow, great record. for an artis in his 5th decade, what do you want/are you expecting?? cos you ain't gonna get RM/RM... |
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| Author: | le freak [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
I don`t think we should say "good for a guy who this or that". I judge music without taking personal considerations. What I do not expect, is a "typical BF album", with all that goes with it on the negative side. In many ways, I was positively surprised by this album because of it`s bright spots. Despite it`s weaknesses, it can yet be heard in it`s entirety without having to skip tracks. On the bright side is also the "band in the studio" feel that has been mentioned in another thread. Luckily, it`s not only layer upon layer this time, but a band playing together. |
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| Author: | RoxySiren [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
paraphonix wrote: le freak wrote: [list=]Loop De Li.........:a nice one Midnight Train...........:a nice one Soldier Of Fortune.......:filler Driving Me Wild..........:filler A Special Kind of Guy....:filler (never has he been nearer an aural soup, plus it`s mono-aural, es ist eintönig) Avonmore.................:a nice one Lost........................:a nice one One Night Stand..........:filler Send In The Clowns......:a nice one Johnny And Mary.........:a nice one[/list] le freak...never knowingly positive...but fair enough, all opinions valid & welcome here... loop - v good - a real grower midnight - serves the purpose, lyrics ok, musically strong soldier - filler?!?! this is honest bf, quite raw & quite frankly a breath of fresh air... driving - i like this. insistent, great lyrics, and quite brave. this doesn't hide behind production. special guy - not my personal fave. one for the ladies?! avonmore - the best. tough, in your face, great music & structure, & great lyrics... lost - nice to hear this finished. a cool track that doesn't outstay its welcome... one night stand - a bf tune. i like the groove,not a total classic, but certainly not a duffer... clowns - like this a lot, but not sure of it on this record...and the same goes for... ...J&M - again, love it, but does it fit?! anyhow, great record. for an artis in his 5th decade, what do you want/are you expecting?? cos you ain't gonna get RM/RM... Fully agree paraphonix...even though I think the suicide allusions in midnight train are rather good. I think it's a very good album indeed ...however rhett's production is perhaps over cooking it with a blanket of velvet. I'm delighted that BF can churn this stuff out at this level after all these years. |
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| Author: | Oberon [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
Loop de li. Good Midnight train Good Soldier of fortune. Good Driving me wild Very good A special kind of guy. For ladies? Avonmore Excellent Lost Filler One night stand Good (Apres une bouteille de vin) Send in the clowns Very good Johnny and Mary Very good |
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| Author: | jesmond [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
Having played Avonmore to death in the car I can say that the title track is outstanding, one of the boldest pieces of music he has ever done and a fabulous collaboration with Ollie Thompson. Loop de Li (whatever a Loop de Li is) and Midnight Train (one of the last survivors from the Horoscope sessions) are vintage Ferry. Lost is a lovely cameo while Send in the Clowns ranks as the best version of the Sondheim classic I have heard. Johnny and Mary haunts the final few moments of the album. Both the closing tracks are the sound of a man whose marriage has gone very wrong (something picked up in the Daily Telegraph's review). The rest pass me by but I thought the same about Reason or Rhyme before being mesmerised by the live version at Sheffield City Hall. It is not a great album but it is a very good one. |
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| Author: | le freak [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
Oberon wrote: Loop de li. Good Midnight train Good Soldier of fortune. Good Driving me wild Very good A special kind of guy. For ladies? Avonmore Excellent Lost Filler One night stand Good (Apres une bouteille de vin) Send in the clowns Very good Johnny and Mary Very good "Lost" a filler? What are you after? Country Life? It`s lounge music, maan! |
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| Author: | Oberon [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
Le freak, nice that you like the song I find to be the weakest! Anyway, I will give Lost many more chances. |
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| Author: | Windswept2 [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the verdict |
[quote="jesmond"]Having played Avonmore to death in the car I can say that the title track is outstanding, one of the boldest pieces of music he has ever done and a fabulous collaboration with Ollie Thompson. Send in the Clowns ranks as the best version of the Sondheim classic I have heard. Johnny and Mary haunts the final few moments of the album. Mes Amis, The tasteful @jesmond has it nailed. Windswept adores 'Send In The Clowns' but thinks the best Ferry interpretation of this particularly tasty morsel is yet to come when he strips it back a little. Maybe that will happen in the live set. 'Reason or Rhyme' has gone through multiple incarnations and always for the better. Initially the version of 'Johnny & Mary' felt a pale imitation of the original but after multiple listens it has morphed into a complete classic. Haunting is an understatement. Bram Stoker would have been proud of this one! Salutations, Windswept. |
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