Why is Bryan working on a second album with Amelia Barratt without waiting for the response to the first album and assessing its success or failure?

Then he could have released another album with Roxy in the Avalon style, or even the long-awaited ninth Roxy album!!!

I think the success would have been different. It's a shame that Bryan eventually abandoned his principles of gratitude towards the Roxy members.

It's a real shame.

Now it's too late. Especially since his voice has completely disappeared.

My guess is, there's such a creative synergy between these two, they've literally got carried away making music in the moment (well, as much as Bryan does anything in the moment!). I'd say it's a great thing. Given the pace Bryan usually works at, to be this motivated and enthusiastic (in his 80th year, too) is pretty remarkable. Whether it's to everyone's taste is another matter and I think all bets are off on that until the second album appears - which looks as though it'll be very different to 'Loose Talk'.

I dare say considerations of LT's success don't feature too highly. Whilst I'm sure BF wouldn't want to be making big losses on these albums, I suspect at this stage of an illustrious career and of his life, he's making music because he wants to and making the type of music he wants. Commercial considerations are probably far less important than they used to be - artists have long made fine music late in their lives with modest sales. The creative juices can't simply be switched off, even if the audience for the finished work is less than it was. The fact he's happy with it and, significantly, it is critically well received, probably counts for much more, these days.

As far as the 9th album is concerned, unless BF and the rest of the band have some sort of epiphany, it's just not going to happen, however much it comes up here (and boy, does it come up). "Nothing to see here, move along" springs to mind.

@UKRichard

Thanks for your very reasonable answer.

... until the second album appears - which looks as though it'll be very different to 'Loose Talk'....

Will the second album really be different to the first one, or is that just speculation?

What happens to the eleven songs on which Phil participated (he confirmed it in an interview at the time) ?

Will they disappear into some drawer like the ninth Roxy album?

I'm speculating the second album will include 'Star' which is very different to anything on LT, so hopefully it will contain a few surprises.

As for the songs Phil contributed to, who knows other than BF and his inner circle? If memory serves, Phil mentioned that before his later quote about the strange stuff Bryan was working on, so maybe the collaborations with AB pushed the earlier project onto a back burner? It does seem as though there are at least those two albums in the works. We know the second album with AB is slated for release this year. As for anything more conventional again, who knows? I think we'd think ourselves lucky if anything in development merely got shoved in a drawer. More likely locked away in the bowels of Studio One, extraction of which would probably be worthy of another Indiana Jones film.

There is only one way forward - the way the artist aged 80 chooses .. I never want to hear another album like Avonmore - which was one of the biggest dissapointments in my Roxy / Ferry life - even more so than Dylanesque which was a particularly bad shock - considering they were supposed to recording a 9th Roxy Album at that time. I can't wait for another Ferry/Barratt release - Loose talk is more interesting that any album he's released since ..dare I say... Boys and Girls. As Phil Manzanera said 'Bryan Ferry is making some weird and wonderful music - I only hope he has the courage too release it'.

Hipsters,
Is W2 alone in being perplexed by UWE’s question ?
Why would any artist create to a formula to please either fans or former band mates ?
Ferry’s creative life has been spent doing stuff that he likes whilst viewing a positive critical or commercial reaction as a positive. He has never and nor should he ever create to order.
One can think what one likes about a specific project but judged objectively, W2 can’t think of another musician who has covered so much ground whilst remaining as distinctivel and recognisable as Ferry.
W2 is looking forward to the second album with AB and just loves his ‘Nouvelle Vague’.
Salutations a tous,
Windswept

I just looked at my earlier reply and in retrospect I think I was a bit harsh when I said 'Loose Talk' was his most interesting album since Boys and Girls - I should've said 'Mamouna' - although having said that - there are individual songs on some of the later albums - 'I Thought' and 'Reason or Rhyme' which to my mind are amongst the best of everything he's written - Solo or with RM. Of course Uwe's question is perplexing - actually it's ridiculous - almost sinister...

I would like to apologize to Mr. Windswept2 and Mr. Gardner for my confusing, ridiculous, and creepy question.

It's a good thing you two don't represent the majority in this forum.

I would like to thank participant UKRichard again. His contributions and answers are factual and, above all, constructive. Even if he has a different view and opinion on the Loose Talk album than I do. But I respect and tolerate that, as is appropriate in a free and democratic world. Of course, my respect also goes out to "freak," "true to life," "smudge," "pianoman," and many others.

I wish Bryan continued good health, strength, and energy, and that he returns to what once made him famous as a great artist: distinctive music.

Instrumental only is fine, but please no vocals.

Otherwise, this second collaboration also threatens to be a major failure (album charts).
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Mr Uwe - You asked a ‘question to the group' - and you got some answers ... Some you liked…Some you didn't. Your end statement ‘threatens to be a major failure' isn't really important to me - It's clear ‘Loose talk’ is a controversial work ( Hurrah! ). I don't think anybody was under the impression that it would be a ‘top ten album’. It's about an '80' year old artist working in collaboration with another creative - being completely reinvigorated and enjoying making new work. Surely this should warrant a celebration ? Or, maybe you think Mr Ferry would rather you were there in the studio hanging over his shoulder telling him exactly what to do in order to keep you happy... Sounds like that might be the only situation that would suit your temperament...

I am hoping that the second collaborative album is more like "Star" and less like the Loose Talk album, then it might be more to my personal liking. I also hope that the Ferry melodies may be newly composed rather than ones that had been lying around for years trying to find a home.

Retrospective was clearly a summing up of his long career doing a variety of commercial work to clear the decks for more experimental work. I doubt the sales figures of the new projects will concern anyone - nothing an 80-year old artist releases will challenge Taylor Swift. I'm glad he is still producing interesting work (even if some of it is not really to my liking) rather than playing it safe.