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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:40 pm 
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Gardner wrote:
Usually there is an air of melancholy or ennui about Ferry's work - in his early work there was plenty of scorn and irony aimed at " vacuous decadence" - it was an interesting way of making poetry about a subject but creating tension by standing outside. it was always this duality which excited me about the work of Roxy Music and Ferry - his work was about cinema and travel and art and comedy and sadness ... And so many other layers and suggestions of things .... This article with his wife bragging about her empty party life is none of the above . It's embarrassing , it's shallow, it's about greed and excess and it paints a terrible picture of her mindset. It's actually astonishing in it's lack of subtlety !!!


Ditto. On both the positive and negative. Behaviour is naff, for sure.
I just hope that it provokes an artistic, lyrical, response from Bry.


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:31 pm 
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RoxySiren wrote:
Ditto. On both the positive and negative. Behaviour is naff, for sure.
I just hope that it provokes an artistic, lyrical, response from Bry.

Perhaps "well educated with no common sense" is appropriate?


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:20 pm 
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RoxySiren wrote:
Behaviour is naff, for sure.
I just hope that it provokes an artistic, lyrical, response from Bry.


Doesn't that presuppose that Bryan will find her behaviour provocative in the first instance? I don't know much and care even less about what Bryan does beyond his music , but from my admittedly very limited insight into the man, my impression is that he will not be unduly offended by the crass excesses of the Bright Young Things. He is, however, clearly a guarded individual so he will surely be explaining the virtues of discretion and circumspection when dealing with the media to his lovely young wife.

Perhaps "Old money's better than new" is appropriate?


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:09 pm 
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You are just envious.
What an artist needs is inspiration! Besides, I`d loved to go to a party and have a drink with Lady Godiva.


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:21 pm 
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Oberon, I don't know if your post is a direct response to mine but given that mine was the latest on the string before yours then I guess it is. If so, then you have picked me up wrong. I am saying "So what! Let them get on with it".

Sure, the article reeks of "all money but no class" but there is no point getting upset about it. If that is what they choose to do with their time and money then that's fair enough in my book.

Envy doesn't come in to it. Even if I had the social standing to receive an invitation, you wouldn't catch me dead at one of these events.


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:37 pm 
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Avondale, don`t take it personal. We are all different - I would love to get an invitation from Amanda! - but we share an interest in BF;s music. So let`s stick together!


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:46 pm 
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Gardner wrote:
Usually there is an air of melancholy or ennui about Ferry's work - in his early work there was plenty of scorn and irony aimed at " vacuous decadence" - it was an interesting way of making poetry about a subject but creating tension by standing outside. it was always this duality which excited me about the work of Roxy Music and Ferry - his work was about cinema and travel and art and comedy and sadness ... And so many other layers and suggestions of things ....


Elegantly Ageing Hipsters,
I just love Hipster Gardner's description of the duality that drew him to Ferry's work.
He articulates so well exactly the way I feel and I do think that an artist has to be able to stand outside of things and observe.
Whether its possible to maintain that level of detachment over time is an interesting question. Maybe its easier when you are an angry young man but I do think its probably why Danny Boyle refused a Knighthood.
Irony plays a huge part in his work and providing he is laughing at the air heads and not with them, all will be well and we will fandango on!
Regards,
Windswept.


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:44 am 
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Being from a desolate wasteland, well, actually, just a few miles from BF's birthplace, maybe when their south-east country estates and Chelsea pads have been fracked to death the chickens will morph and resemble those from the family meal scene in "Eraserhead."

Some great posts on this thread, personally, I think BF sussed everything about this vacuous lifestyle in the original "Casanova" - the last time he had venom in his voice......


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:45 pm 
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Well said Gardner. Her world seems so vacuous and empty. It wouldn't be of interest, except that she and BF are married and he must be spending more than a little time with her.

Think of all the truly interesting women BF could have chosen to spend his time with? And he picked her? Whew. This is depressing.


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 Post subject: Re: "Roast chickens you could attack with your hands"
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:16 pm 
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rendezvous wrote:
l "Casanova" - the last time he had venom in his voice......


Such venom! That's why I love the roxy version ( even though the serpentine devillishness of the bf version is good too). CL version: Real spitting emotion. And just like you say,dear rdv, aimed full square at that echelon of society (where imnsho bf saw himself too, hence the double edged meaning....the Casanova whom the narrator despises, is also bf himself ). That's what I meant to say: bf was never an angel. Never a paragon. Whatever one might thing about his Weltanschauung doesn't matter: this angst can create a good lyric.


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