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RoxySiren
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:39 pm |
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Windswept2 wrote: Roxy wrote: David M who??  Hipsters, The great Roxy has it sussed, this ne'er-do-well has clearly stumbled into this hallowed cyber hall by mistake. Doesn't he know that it is uniquely the domain of "Taste Tarantulas"? Judging by his inappropriate, misjudged and inarticulate reporting of events at Manchester one can only assume that the finer things in life are lost on him. I'm sure he'd be much more at home @ http://www.cliffrichard.comRegards, Windswept 
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rendezvous
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:33 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:21 pm Posts: 390
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Can you please stop referring to him as David M?! - that's my first name and surname initial (Helen , the witch, knows my true ID) and I really don't want people to even think I'm linked to the idiot.
Cheers.
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:23 am |
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Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 269 Location: Manchester, England
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rendezvous wrote: Can you please stop referring to him as David M?! - that's my first name and surname initial (Helen , the witch, knows my true ID) and I really don't want people to even think I'm linked to the idiot.
Cheers. Well, I was a rubbish witch, hung my crystal balls up a long time ago.
I'm now the good witch of the north.....
Anyway how are you?
Do you regret taking over at Man United? and do you think you'll stay up this season? haha
_________________ I know that time spent well is so rare
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:45 am |
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Helen wrote: rendezvous wrote: Can you please stop referring to him as David M?! - that's my first name and surname initial (Helen , the witch, knows my true ID) and I really don't want people to even think I'm linked to the idiot.
Cheers. Well, I was a rubbish witch, hung my crystal balls up a long time ago.
I'm now the good witch of the north.....
Anyway how are you?
Do you regret taking over at Man United? and do you think you'll stay up this season? haha
Brilliant reply and I'm great thanks. In taking over at Man U I think the continuity factor was all-important - I'm as miserable as the last incumbent. We will stay up because, unfortunately, rendezvous' beloved Sunderland are cursed 
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:41 pm |
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Bob
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:17 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:30 pm Posts: 70 Location: Scotland
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Many thanks for this recording - excellent sound quality. I've only had time to listen to the first set so far and on that basis, I can't see how anyone could find cause for complaint with some really good stuff - this performance of Carrickfergus was gorgeous. Many, many thanks for sharing this. 
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:27 pm |
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You're very welcome, Bob.
Without wanting to reignite the slanging match, you can count me amongst the disappointed. I felt Bryan's performance lacked energy, and the gig didn't really come to life until "Love Is the Drug".
One can take umbrage with the tone of David M's blog review, but I lean toward his point of view more than that of the other, gushing reviews linked here. I cannot comment on shows I did not attend, but the opening night in Salford was far from a five-star performance, IMO.
I also found the sound in the Lowry poorly mixed on the night. Bryan's vocals had an odd, hollow tone, which is accurately captured in my recording. Given my position in the hall, and the equipment I use, this should have been a stunning capture. By my own standards, I would rate it as very good.
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:40 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:30 pm Posts: 70 Location: Scotland
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Well I'm a huge Dylan fan with hundreds of his shows in sound that varies from just tolerable to what I would call stunning - if you only rate this as "very good" I look forward to hearing one of your "stunning" captures one day! I can hear what you mean about BF's vocals having a hollow quality and this can only be due to the sound quality in the venue- your capture of the instrumental balance strikes me as exceptionally good. Thanks again.
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Post subject: Re: Manchester Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:55 pm |
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Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:33 pm Posts: 173
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Big Dylan fan here, also. I have pretty much every tape in circulation up to and including the 1984 tour; beyond that, my interest drops considerably, although the NET has its highs as well as its lows. Taping equipment has improved greatly over the years, so it's unfair to compare a recent recording with one from, say, the 1970s. Position and technique also play a big part in shaping the end result. But I digress. Bryan's vocals on that first night at The Lowry were poorly mixed, IMO. Nothing I, or anyone except the FoH sound engineer, could do about that. It's something I immediately noticed, and it didn't improve one iota during the course of the evening, to the point where I began to wonder if it were an aesthetic decision. I, like many tapers, tend to be hypercritical of my own work. There's no such thing as a perfect live recording, just an ever-increasing grey scale toward the unachievable. Technically (position, stillness, input levels, crowd noise, etc.), there were no problems at The Lowry. The raw master is incredibly clean. But the recording, as well as the performance, just doesn't pop for me as it might. I've made many recordings that I consider better. If you want to hear a recent one, check out my David Byrne & St. Vincent capture from Birmingham Symphony Hall: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=464658That's one that I will continue to go back to, time and again, as one of my personal favourite recordings, as well as a superb performance. Thanks for your feedback. You are too kind.
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